I made a big map for my D&D game and turned it into a poster for use during the game. It’s easily the most detailed thing I’ve ever drawn; it took me about a year working on and off on it in my spare time, mostly as a break from my dissertation or as a way to wind down in the evening. It’s entirely hand-drawn except for the lettering; I scanned a lot of 8-1/2″x11″ pages together, then edited them.
Here it is:
As you can see, it’s pretty detailed:
Anonymous
Any plans to publish this map? It’s awesome.
Bearded Devil
Thanks! I might see about options for publication at some point, though I’m not sure what those might be, realistically. Digital copies would be very unwieldy; it’s a 1.5 GB tiff file, currently, and reducing the resolution might lose a lot of detail. A physical copy might be too expensive to be practical. That said, I’ve got a lot of other info on the setting (write ups of all the districts and factions) and about 300 pages of adventure notes, so at some point I might try to figure out a suitable project for the setting. If you have any idea for suitable methods for publication let me know.
Anonymous
How big would the file be as a jpeg?
Bearded Devil
Only 110 MB, could be pretty manageable I guess. Still too big to actually post here in full, but still, better. There is some detail lost – it doens’t look as good zoomed way way in – but everything’s still legible and it looks reasonably similar when zoomed a bit further out.
Sergi
Maybe you have already tried that, but I think that you could reduce the color palette to only black and white (or a few greys), and then store it as a very compact png (theoretically it should be smaller than a jpeg).
I’m happy to help on that if you want to send me a small cut of the original tiff to test.
Bearded Devil
I hadn’t tried that – good thought.
Gibbsies
You could make an html page where you use a different zoomed out image. Clicking on the regions would open a different page, an individual screen sized page.
Clicking on the edge of the zoomed page would go N, S, E or W to a different page… not a full jump, but 1/2 a page. You want to make more mini pages than you need so they can overlap and no building is permanently bisected by an edge.
If you get especially ambitious, clicking on a building would go to a different web page and show your notes on that area…
I don’t know how you can finance this, perhaps patreon? I would sign up.
Bearded Devil
Building-by-building would probably be too much even for a DM-prep-maximalist like me, but I like the idea of zooming out and in. The way I’ve been envisioning putting it in a book was going district by district (there are 36 of them, 6 being a significant number in the city, obviously) with a write-up of each below each district’s map section, and a digital version of the full map, with the more expensive physical copy as an extra.
Nobby-W
Unfortunately, DriveThruRPG doesn’t do formats bigger than 12×18″. You could go to an outfit like printed.com, which will do large format posters in small runs, but you then lose out on the order fulfilment services from DriveThruRPG.
Where this could be a win is if you wanted to make a campaign pack with supplementary rules (e.g. encounter tables, NPCs, adventure seeds, background flavour). You could do a book with a section for each neighbourhood, and isolate the detailed map parts for that neighbourhood.
Combine that with a less detailed overview map and you could make something that could be published through DriveThruRPG.
You could set up a fulfilment process for the posters through any online shopping provider, even if you have to take the orders and dispatch them by hand yourself (DriveThuRPG may or may not be able to help here). Put an advertisement in the book for the poster and take the orders separately.
Bearded Devil
I’ve generally envisioned something like a campaign pack. I’ve got a very set of notes for each neighbourhood, sometimes very detailed, sometimes a little broader. Good thought on the “order poster separately” thing – I think that makes more sense than trying to bundle them inextricably, so to speak.
Chucklemaster
Seconded. I would pay good money to steal from this 😀
Ben L.
This is absolutely amazing
Bearded Devil
Thanks, much appreciated! I’m a fan of your blog!
Kyani
This is amazing, not only in details and scale but also in dedication. Wonderful work.
Bearded Devil
Thank you!
Callan S.
You should consider selling it rather than just releasing it. In this age we should be even more considerate of an artists time, skill and efforts.
In terms of physical form, I think you should consider how long it’ll take you to arrange that against that some people will actually decide the price is worth it. Maybe only a few buyers might take it, but it might well sell that way.
Bearded Devil
I’ve also got a lot of material written for the campaign this is attached to, both the setting (about 75 pages) and a lot of adventures (about 300 pages) – some of it wouldn’t be publishable, but at some point I might edit and rearrange parts of it into a book. So it might make sense to do something similar to Vornheim, where the city map is an online supplement to a physical or PDF book, and then if people really wanted a big physical copy that could be a separate thing/add-on.
Lobo7922
Hi, this is awesome, congratulations.
I’m sure you already know it, but just in case you CAN publish your map under the Open Gaming License for D&D:
http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/systems-reference-document-srd
And then publish it in the DM’s Guild:
http://dungeonmastersguild.com/
Or you could simply use something like DrivethruRPG:
http://www.drivethrurpg.com
Or even something as simple as Gumroad:
https://gumroad.com
Don’t worry about the size of the file. I won’t mind downloading something that huge, when the quality is huge too. I’m sure other fans will think the same.
I have downloaded some really huge files for my roleplaying games and I been very happy about it.
Good luck.
Bearded Devil
Thank you for the encouragement, and links! I wasn’t as familiar with the DM’s guild beyond some vague references, but I’d thought about Gumroad and Drivethru as I’ve bought stuff from there before. It’s good to know they sometimes have huge files.
Alex Armand Rivas
It is beautiful. I would gladly pay 100 to 200 for the map print. You should at least consider producing it as a physical print that’s 3 feet by 4 feet.
Bearded Devil
Thank you! The one hanging on my wall which I use during the game itself is about this (just slightly larger) – any smaller and the names of taverns and alleyways become too small to read, any bigger and it won’t fit on my table. Good to know that there’d be interest in purchasing it.
Ben Dutter
Love it. I’m interested in publishing it. Email me and we can chat.
Garrett
If you are losing too much going to jpg, try a PNG. It should preserve the details while getting you to a reasonable size. What’s the final resolution of this monster of a map?
Bearded Devil
In the TIFF file in its full version it’s 17500×22300 pixels (it has crashed a laptop before, and won’t load in some viewers). Good thought on the PNG.
Erik
I’d like to chime in with more encouragement for you to sell prints. It’s outstanding!
Bearded Devil
Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement.
Dollar Signs
Please, Please, Please make a digital version of this available. For Money. Let us throw our wallets at you!
Bearded Devil
🙂 Given the response here and on reddit I’ll at least be looking into some avenues for publishing it.
Matt
Freaking awesome!
Super cool.
It shows the talent and workmanship.
Bearded Devil
Thanks Matt!
drrockso20
Could always split it into several parts for both online and physical distribution, so instead of 1 jpg that is like 100 MB, do 4 at 25 or 10 at 10 or something
Bearded Devil
True, good thought. A bit like the Turgot map of Paris.
Michael Pfaff
Have money. Will buy.
Bearded Devil
Thanks, good to know! Would you be more interested in just the map, or a setting book with the map included?
Michael Pfaff
To be honest, I’d love to have the map as a standalone product, especially if that meant getting it sooner. The image alone is inspiring enough to run a city campaign with it. I run local public events with random assortments of players and I can imagine this being a perfect “everyone lives in this city” new group every time game.
That said, I might buy a setting and just use the map if that were the only option.
Bearded Devil
Thanks, that’s useful info.
Tobias Smith
Incredible work, you inspire me. I need to work on my paltry map making skills.
tkitch
Plz to be with the selling. I would /love/ a digital copy of this.
Anonyamous
AMAZING!
Rachel
Looks awesome 🙂 +1 for would buy a physical poster
Emanuela
I’D LOVE TO BUY IT! Both the map and the adventure. I’m a new gm (I’ve played for some years, though), and Ild love to run a campaing on this setting!
Fez
This looks AWESOME! I’d 100% be keen on purchasing this, especially for the level of detail
Bearded Devil
Good to know. If something develops I will advertise here to let people know when/where it can be purchased.
Immolate
You should submit this to Cartographer’s Guild. You’ll get a lot of feedback on it.
Bearded Devil
That’s an interesting idea, although frankly I am not really looking to further improve the map. If I do another one at some point I did learn some lessons from this one.
Bob Fossil
I would very much consider talking with someone who knows the ins and outs of Illustrator and whether it can be converted to .ai or .eps vector files. This would keep the crispness and reduce the file size
S. John Ross
I could certainly vectorize this to a reasonable file-size that would maintain 100% of the meaningful detail. I would do so at no charge, so you could sell it (and then I’d BUY it from you). Contact me at sjohn@cumberlandgames.com
S. John Ross
(I mean that to the OP, not Bob, but in response to Bob’s suggestion) =)
Bearded Devil
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the offer – I’ve got a publisher for the project who really knows the ins and outs of this sort of thing, so I should be good, but I really appreciate your interest.
drrockso20
so any updates on this map possibly being published?
Bearded Devil
I have a publisher secured and we have a project currently in the layout phase that will include the map.
novum
any update on the project you can share with us? i, too , will be a customer. (if that fell through, have you considered patreon?)
i’ve fallen in love with this blog, the map, the names, and really enjoy some of the game session write ups. the jack whale city is fantasy d&d at its best, and i read the contagion and winter-troll sessions as if they were a novel.
i’m currently building a new campaign world, after returning to d&d from a 20 year hiatus (ad&d), and this blog has been very inspiring.
Bearded-Devil
There have been a few delays (the publisher has some other projects in the pipeline) but we still definitely intend to publish the map and some other material in the not-too-distant future. I’m working on a much more detailed guide to the city, its factions, NPCs, monsters, etc, down to the last seedy tavern and backstreet.
I’m very glad the blog has been inspiring, and that the session write-ups are readable! I find a lot of actual play write-ups more serviceable as records of play than enjoyable as texts, if that makes sense, and I’ve tried to add enough flair to the language to make them interesting.
yasha
This is so cool! Any updates on publishing the setting? I’m a new DM, and would love something like this to work with!
Bearded-Devil
There are some updates!
Firstly, I have published the first volume of this larger setting: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/295462/Genial-Jack–issue-I
You can also read a preview of the Hex Gazeteer here: https://bearded-devil.com2019/11/29/two-sample-streets-and-factions/
Also here: https://bearded-devil.com2019/12/14/100-characters-crooks-in-hex/